Gushing, Enneagram, & Phobias
Kaitlin & Caroline
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Shannon Popkin is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and host of the Live Like It’s True podcast. Shannon has spent years helping people engage Scripture in practical ways, and her latest work explores one of the habits that quietly damages our relationships more than we realize: judgment.
In this conversation, we talk about why judgment feels so unavoidable. Why do we feel judged so often? Why are we so quick to judge others? Shannon unpacks the hidden roots of our critical thoughts—from comparison and insecurity to assumptions we don't even realize we're making.
We also wrestle with an important question: Why do Christians sometimes seem especially judgmental? Shannon explains the crucial difference between discernment and judgment, and offers practical ways to replace criticism with curiosity, compassion, and grace.
Allison Byxbe is a writer, speaker, and advocate for honest conversations about grief, healing, and faith in the midst of life’s hardest realities.
Allison shares her story of walking through profound loss and heartbreak, including her sister’s stillbirth, her own miscarriage, a difficult genetic diagnosis for her son, and seasons of struggle within her marriage. She opens up about the questions, fears, and grief that accompanied those experiences, and the slow, often messy journey toward healing.
One of the most powerful parts of Allison’s story is the role journaling played along the way. We talk about how putting words to our pain can help us process emotions instead of suppressing them, why reflection is such an important part of healing, and how journaling can create space for God to meet us in our hardest seasons.
Emily and Matt are vindicated about the existance of water table fountains. Is Ariana Grande okay? Is it okay for society to be commenting on women’s bodies if they’re underweight? The 1 tillion different terms for women’s haircuts and styles that hairstylists are absolutely making up. How long is too long to wear an item of clothing before deciding to return it? Kaitlin has a ruin with a librarian. Matt doesn’t understand how libraries work. Does renting everyday clothes make any sense? The Black Tux is the best. Norah faces her first walking related injury (don’t worry, she’s okay…Emily? Not so much). Go Knicks!
Hanna Seymour is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and a passionate advocate for helping people experience God in everyday life. Hanna encourages women to let go of perfectionism and embrace simple, sustainable rhythms that deepen their relationship with Jesus.
In this conversation, we talk about why so many Christians carry shame around the idea of having a “quiet time” and how that shame can actually keep us from connecting with God. Hanna shares practical, attainable ways to grow your faith, even in busy seasons, and reminds us that spiritual disciplines were never meant to be another item on our to-do list.
We also discuss a freeing truth: there is nothing we can do to make God love us more. We don’t earn His affection through Bible reading plans, prayer streaks, or perfect spiritual habits. Instead, those practices simply help us draw closer to the God who already loves us completely.
Finally, Hanna unpacks how the science of habit formation can work alongside spiritual growth, helping us create rhythms that are life-giving rather than guilt-inducing. If you've ever felt like you're failing at your faith because you can't seem to "do enough," this conversation is the breath of fresh air you've been looking for.